taken and re-posted by permission from www.psychedelicbaby.blogspot.com :
In
the 20th century we began what I call ‘the short cycle’ of Psychedelia which
began with peyote and mescaline experiments in the 1890s-1920s, then really took
off with Hofmann’s discovery of LSD. The short cycle reached a peak in terms
ofpopular attention in the late 1960s, then went into a quiet mode during the
1970s and 80s, and then it was revitalized in the early 1990s, with Terence
McKenna replacing Tim Leary, and drugs like DMT, ayahuasca and psilocybin
replacing LSD. Although ‘60s Psychedelia has been given much more attention, I
believe the 1990s scene is just as important. The situation today is that the
hedonistic spirit of the 1990s is very much alive, especially here in Europe,
but it’s underground and deliberately low-profile. My book opens with the
observation that more people are taking psychedelic drugs today than any other
time – and that includes the psychedelic ‘60s. In short, Psychedelia is alive
and well, and people involved have understood to keep outsiders at a distance.
Today, you can go and see a movie like Avatar, parts of which are completely
drenched in psychedelic ideas – there was even an ayahuasca drug ritual in that
movie, though it was left out of the final cut. The commercially biggest movie
of all time looks like it was made by someone who has been smoking DMT for
several years – that’s good proof that psychedelic culture not only lives,but
may in fact be expanding. I certainly believe so.
Psychedelic culture will always survive, as it has for
1000s of years. Wherever there are people who use powerful psycho-active drugs
which give visionary experiences, there will be Psychedelia. As for psychedelic
music, I don’t think there will be any major wave of psychedelic rock more than
what we’re seeing today. The 1965-72 psychedelia is one of the classic
sub-genres of rock, it’s like a golden age that people return to and don’t
really hope to surpass, somewhat like the Viennese period in classical music, or
the 1950s/early 60s in jazz. So I believe that rock music will keep on feeding
from that incredibly exciting period, but it’s hard to see it being taken
further. Within electronic music however, I see possibilities that there may be
much to discover and create still –the idea of the “soundtrack for the movie in
your mind” is almost limitless, and what may be needed is the arrival of a few
truly brilliantly creative people who can take psybient electronica as far as
the best classical music, like Stravinsky or Bartok. So the brightest future I
believe lies in the intersection of psychedelic drugs, musical creativity, and
chill-out electronica.
My 5 most recently played albums are: Leonard Cohen
“Greatest Hits” – the old ‘70s sampler with the beige cover –really the only
Cohen album anyone needs. He was very influential and in small portions he is
quite impressive. Byrds “Younger Than Yesterday” – UK stereo original. I’m
writing an article that compares mono vs stereo for a bunch of classic psych
LPs, and so I bought this and got the UK pressing to put a second angle on it.
The old ‘60s vinyl sound is outstanding, much better than the crap CD reissues
that CBS used to make. Crème Soda “Tricky Zingers” – I have a ‘ghetto blaster’
in the kitchen with a timer setting,so that it begins to play music every
morning about 10 minutes before the alarm rings. This way I am basically
awakened by music, and it needs to be a record that doesn’t annoy, but sounds
fine in the morning. Crème Soda works pretty well, but nothing has challenged
These Trails in the ‘good morning’ genre so far! Further on, Trad Gras &
Stenar “Live at Gardet”, a beautiful 2-LP set released by my good friends at
Subliminal Sounds with previously unreleased 1970 live tapes from this highly
rated drone/krautrock band from here in Stockholm. Finally, Solar Fields
“Leaving Home”, a modern psybient/downbeat masterpiece from a guy in Gothenburg
who is a major name on the electronica scene—it’s like an whole album’s worth of
Kraftwerk’s old headtrip “Spacelab”. As for reading, I’m currently going through
Gordon Wasson’s classic work “Soma”, in which he seeks to prove that the old
Indian-Vedic religion was built on ritual drug consumtion of the fly agaric
mushroom. A friend of mine challenged the whole idea,so I felt I had to check up
on Wasson again, as I give him support in my Psychedelia book!
As described in a recent issue of Shindig magazine, there
was a lively psychedelic scene here in Stockholm in the late 1980s-early
90s,which I was part of. The whole thing revolved around the psychedelic artist
collective known as the Lumber Island Acid Crew (“Lumber Island” is a code name
for Stockholm), which consisted of 15-20 young, creative people who were
dropping LSD and working in music, literature, art. It was a bit like Ken Kesey
& the Merry Pranksters, except 25 years later. So being part of this
group,which still sort of exists, was very important for me,both as a creative
liberation, and also to break away from the unexciting suburban climate I had
grown up in. In the mid-1990s I got a serious “white collar” job as a project
manager, got married and had two children, and so the psychedelic adventures
were put on hold for a while, although I continued with the record collecting
and writing. Now in recent years I’ve been able to get back into Psychedelia
again, but these days it’s more about psilocybian mushrooms and ayahuasca (yagé)
than Hofmann’s old potion. I hear some people say it’s hard to find lysergics
right now, probably because there isn’t any active undeground lab going, but
this comes and goes. However, people could simply switch to shrooms or
ayahuasca, which are just as powerful or even more powerful,and actually more or
less legal in many European countries.
Interview with Patrick Lundborg of Lysergia.com, author of the Acid Archives (2010) and Psychedelia (2012)
Interview:
You are releasing a brand new book
entitled "Psychedelia-An Ancient Culture, A Modern Way Of Life" and as far as we
understand, this is something entirely different than "Acid
Archive"?
Yes, the
”Psychedelia” book is a new and different work. It deals with a much wider field
than the Acid Archives book, which was basically a guide-book for fans of old
underground music. There are several chapters about music in the new book as
well, but it’s in the context of a bigger frame of reference, which is what I
call psychedelic culture, or Psychedelia. The Acid Archives dealt with American
rock music from the 1960s-70s, but the Psychedelia book deals with music that
ranges from Berlioz in the 19th century to the latest ‘psybient’ electronica
from England and France. All of it psychedelic,in one way or
other!
Your book is a research on so called
"psychedelic culture". What is the current state of this so called culture today
in your opinion?
In
the 20th century we began what I call ‘the short cycle’ of Psychedelia which
began with peyote and mescaline experiments in the 1890s-1920s, then really took
off with Hofmann’s discovery of LSD. The short cycle reached a peak in terms
ofpopular attention in the late 1960s, then went into a quiet mode during the
1970s and 80s, and then it was revitalized in the early 1990s, with Terence
McKenna replacing Tim Leary, and drugs like DMT, ayahuasca and psilocybin
replacing LSD. Although ‘60s Psychedelia has been given much more attention, I
believe the 1990s scene is just as important. The situation today is that the
hedonistic spirit of the 1990s is very much alive, especially here in Europe,
but it’s underground and deliberately low-profile. My book opens with the
observation that more people are taking psychedelic drugs today than any other
time – and that includes the psychedelic ‘60s. In short, Psychedelia is alive
and well, and people involved have understood to keep outsiders at a distance.
Today, you can go and see a movie like Avatar, parts of which are completely
drenched in psychedelic ideas – there was even an ayahuasca drug ritual in that
movie, though it was left out of the final cut. The commercially biggest movie
of all time looks like it was made by someone who has been smoking DMT for
several years – that’s good proof that psychedelic culture not only lives,but
may in fact be expanding. I certainly believe so.
You are discussing the whole history of
"psychedelic culture", that spans over 3500 years. Would you like to tell us
some essential milestones in this culture, that happened before year 1966 when
this whole music related explosion happened.
The
LSD-influenced rock music of the ‘60s that everyone loves is only a minor turn
in the road of Psychedelia. Psychedelic culture has been a permanent
undercurrent in Western society since ancient times. This is what I call ‘the
long cycle’ of Psychedelia. Psychedelic culture is built upon two fundamental
pillars: the direct, personal experience of a higher world, and a celebration of
our everyday existence in light of this experience. Both these elements go
directly against the dogmas and hierarchies of Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
During certain times this alternative culture rises to the surface and becomes
influential on society at large, which is what happened in ancient Greece at the
time of the Great Mystery rites in Eleusis, where thousands of people gathered
each year to drink a psychedelic brew (an organic variant of LSD) and spend an
extraordinary night of visions and emotional bonding – kind of like an early
Acid Test!
All the famous
philosophers and even Roman emperors took part in this ritual, which had a
profound influence on the Greek-Roman culture that our Western world is built
on. Another high-point for this alternative culture was the Italian Renaissance,
where the heritages of Athens and Rome were rediscovered, and for a century or
so this heritage raised more interest than the familiar Christian dogmas. Later
in history one can identify singular individuals with an obvious relevance to
Psychedelia, such as William Blake and his mentor-opponent Emanuel Swedenborg.
In the early 20th century, psychedelic drugs entered Western society again, and
this began ‘the short cycle’ that I describe above. The long cycle of
Psychedelia will continue as long as mankind exists, while the future and
duration of the short cycle currently going on is something for each modern
psychedelicist to consider.
If "Acid Archives" is about
underground, overlooked, forgotten and undiscovered rock music, then your new
book is talking more into details regarding the consumption of hallucinogens and
stuff related; such as what kind of impact had it on people from the bands? What
do you think is the main difference if readers would ask you, what is it about
in a few words?
Psychedelic
rock music is important as it is a highly visible and much-loved window for
psychedelic culture. At the same time, the 1960s were an extremely eventful and
complex period even without the psychedelic drugs,and it is important to
separate what was ‘60s zeitgeist,and what was a direct expression of psychedelic
influences. In the book there are several chapters that look into how
psychedelic rock music arose in the mid-‘60s and expanded and lingered well into
the late 1970s, and how this related to society at large, particularly in places
like San Francisco and London. From the viewpoint of Psychedelia, the main topic
is not the bands themselves as much as what they tell us about the effects of
psychedelic drugs on creativity and ideas. In this context, the most vital bands
are those that were genuinely inspired by LSD from the beginning, rather than as
some trendy fad. In the early days of psychedelic rock music, the two bands that
were most profoundly and wholeheartedly devoted to the psychedelic experience
were the 13th Floor Elevators and the Grateful Dead. Both these bands were born
out of psychedelic trips,and continued to use the psychedelic experience as a
beacon for their work. Other bands,like the Beatles and the Jefferson Airplane,
did not originate from LSD experiences, but they managed to take this influence
and combine it with their natural style in a great, meaningful way. Yet other
groups didn’t really understand LSD or the serious psychedelic lifestyle, but
gave it a shot with the music anyway,and as the book points out, some of these
‘60s “fakedelia” groups created highly enjoyable music too, simply because the
atmosphere was loaded with psychedelic vibes. Later on, with the 1970s ‘private
press’ and krautrock scenes, the psychedelic bands tended to be serious and
genuine, because there was no ‘trend’ to capitalize on. Anyone who made
LSD-inspired music in 1975 did it because he believed in it. And of course, the
psychedelic ambient and trippy chillout music that has become popular in the
2000s via groups like Shpongle and Entheogenic comes from true psychedelic
inspiration, just like the Elevators and the
Dead.
Would you like to take us on this process that happened
while you were writing this book. It's like 20 years of work. How did it all
began and did you travel or how did you find out more about "psychedelic"
culture.
I mention this
in the foreword to the book. Basically the book took 20 years to prepare, and 2
years to write. I began assembling information about psychedelic culture in the
late 1980s – reading books, saving newspaper clippings, talking to people I met.
For a long while I just did this without being sure why. It seemed important
somehow, but I couldn’t say why. Then back in 2010, after the 2nd edition of the
Acid Archives had been printed and finished, I got an idea for the “Psychedelia”
book, which is described in the foreword. I began writing, and once I had begun,
I couldn’t stop! A major key to the whole thing is the idea to turn everything
upside down, and instead of seeing psychedelic music as a sub-genre in rock
music, I decided to treat psychedelic music as part of a long-running
psychedelic culture, and then see what came out with this new approach. Then I
did the same thing with movies, visual art, religious cults, etc. I believe no
one has written about Psychedelia in this way before. In addition to my research
and private archives, I interviewed some psychedelic veterans, like Michael
Bowen who arranged the Human Be-In, and other guys who were experts on the
history of LSD, or the hippie communes of the 1970s, and so on. I spent a couple
of days designing a structural outline for the whole book, and after that the
text grew chapter by chapter as everything seemed to fall into place.
These days we have a nice return of the
music, that was kind of lost for awhile. Plenty of labels and magazines are very
interested in the psych bands from the late 60's, early 70's and there is a new
wave of bands, that are taking this sounds and starting their own psychedelic
bands. We have so called "hipster" subculture, we have "psytrance" heads and we
have some other subcultures. What is your opinion on this "new" subcultures that
are emerging these days?
I’m perhaps
getting too old to truly understand all the new youth sub-cultures, although I
find it interesting and try to stay with the times. Professionally though, I’m
only really interested in those sub-cultures that are involved with psychedelic
drugs, because they are carrying the torch of Psychedelia into the 2010s and
2020s. Here I see two different trends; one are the hardcore drug experimenters,
people whose main interest are the chemicals and their effects. These are the
people who try all the new ‘research chemicals’ or what used to be called
‘designer drugs’ back in the 1980s-90s. The psychedelic underground keeps
producing new molecular variants on the classic psychedelic drugs, like new
types of LSD or psilocybin, and there is this subculture in Europe and the US of
young people who try these drugs in the search for new and weird experiences.
The other subculture is the one related to the electronic dance music, and it’s
basically the old rave explosion of the 1990s that is still happening, in a more
specialized form. There are these massive gatherings around Europe where 1000s
of young “psy” fans gather, take mushrooms , LSD and ecstasy, and dance to the
various forms of psychedelic electronica, ranging from the uptempo Goa trance to
the slower, chillout psybient style like Shpongle and such. The old rave/Goa
trip is alive, but it’s less talked about today. And of course, this
drug-inspired, hedonistic culture is a perfect example of the long-running
celebration of life that is a vital backbone to the Psychedelia book. You can
draw a line from the Greek hallucinogen rituals at the great templein Eleusis
around 500 BC up to the Acid Tests and Be-Ins of the ‘60s, and onwards to the
all-night dances of the 1990s-2000s. Over and over, it is the same phenomena of
a shared celebration of each individual’s psychedelic freedom, in different
times and places.
When you are talking about Goa Trance I
always have a feeling, you don't link this directly to the psychedelic music.
Psych rock is music, that is interesting from a totally different aspects
(artistic, background etc.), but Goa trance is not a big thing in my opinion as
far as the artistic approach goes. Do you agree, that Goa trance is directly
made to be listened with hallucinogens or do you think it is also interesting as
music itself?
If you mean
that the Goa/PsyTrance music is made by anonymous producers mainly for people
to dance to while on psychedelic drugs, I think you’re absolutely right. That is
how it came to be created in the first place, as a development from the less
hedonistic and more dystopian Euro-techno. I have a chapter in the Psychedelia
book where I trace the new electronic dance music from Detroit 1985 up to 2012,
and how it relates to psychedelic drugs. I’m too old to go dancing all-night on
some beach in the Greek islands, but I can still enjoy some of the Goa/PsyTrance
stuff at home. There’s a vast difference in quality, and some of it is pretty
awful, but the best vintage stuff like Hallucinogen, The Infinity Project, Man
Without Name etc I think is very good and trippy music. However, I must admit
that I’m not as much into the Goa style as I was when it first appeared around
1994. It hasn’t aged perfectly well, and these days I rather listen to the
Psybient music, which to me is the ultimate example of psychedelic music for the
2000s. When they realized they could lower the tempo to “rock” beats, these
talented electronica guys like Simon Posford began making music that is as
perfectly psychedelic as the best late ‘60s stuff. The only difference is that
it’s mostly electronic, with some acoustic/analog overlays, but that’s fine with
me—I’ve always been a great Kraftwerk fan. I recommend any psych fan to check
out the most recent Shpongle album and see what they make of
it.
What do you think the future will bring
as far as music goes? Will this psych revival explode even
more?
Psychedelic culture will always survive, as it has for
1000s of years. Wherever there are people who use powerful psycho-active drugs
which give visionary experiences, there will be Psychedelia. As for psychedelic
music, I don’t think there will be any major wave of psychedelic rock more than
what we’re seeing today. The 1965-72 psychedelia is one of the classic
sub-genres of rock, it’s like a golden age that people return to and don’t
really hope to surpass, somewhat like the Viennese period in classical music, or
the 1950s/early 60s in jazz. So I believe that rock music will keep on feeding
from that incredibly exciting period, but it’s hard to see it being taken
further. Within electronic music however, I see possibilities that there may be
much to discover and create still –the idea of the “soundtrack for the movie in
your mind” is almost limitless, and what may be needed is the arrival of a few
truly brilliantly creative people who can take psybient electronica as far as
the best classical music, like Stravinsky or Bartok. So the brightest future I
believe lies in the intersection of psychedelic drugs, musical creativity, and
chill-out electronica.
Whats currently on your turntable and
what are you reading, Patrick?
My 5 most recently played albums are: Leonard Cohen
“Greatest Hits” – the old ‘70s sampler with the beige cover –really the only
Cohen album anyone needs. He was very influential and in small portions he is
quite impressive. Byrds “Younger Than Yesterday” – UK stereo original. I’m
writing an article that compares mono vs stereo for a bunch of classic psych
LPs, and so I bought this and got the UK pressing to put a second angle on it.
The old ‘60s vinyl sound is outstanding, much better than the crap CD reissues
that CBS used to make. Crème Soda “Tricky Zingers” – I have a ‘ghetto blaster’
in the kitchen with a timer setting,so that it begins to play music every
morning about 10 minutes before the alarm rings. This way I am basically
awakened by music, and it needs to be a record that doesn’t annoy, but sounds
fine in the morning. Crème Soda works pretty well, but nothing has challenged
These Trails in the ‘good morning’ genre so far! Further on, Trad Gras &
Stenar “Live at Gardet”, a beautiful 2-LP set released by my good friends at
Subliminal Sounds with previously unreleased 1970 live tapes from this highly
rated drone/krautrock band from here in Stockholm. Finally, Solar Fields
“Leaving Home”, a modern psybient/downbeat masterpiece from a guy in Gothenburg
who is a major name on the electronica scene—it’s like an whole album’s worth of
Kraftwerk’s old headtrip “Spacelab”. As for reading, I’m currently going through
Gordon Wasson’s classic work “Soma”, in which he seeks to prove that the old
Indian-Vedic religion was built on ritual drug consumtion of the fly agaric
mushroom. A friend of mine challenged the whole idea,so I felt I had to check up
on Wasson again, as I give him support in my Psychedelia book!
As the author of the book, did you
experiment a lot with hallucinogens? I found it really hard to get the stuff
(LSD) in "modern society" with the emerge of so many cheap ecstasies, trips etc.
What's your opinion about it?
As described in a recent issue of Shindig magazine, there
was a lively psychedelic scene here in Stockholm in the late 1980s-early
90s,which I was part of. The whole thing revolved around the psychedelic artist
collective known as the Lumber Island Acid Crew (“Lumber Island” is a code name
for Stockholm), which consisted of 15-20 young, creative people who were
dropping LSD and working in music, literature, art. It was a bit like Ken Kesey
& the Merry Pranksters, except 25 years later. So being part of this
group,which still sort of exists, was very important for me,both as a creative
liberation, and also to break away from the unexciting suburban climate I had
grown up in. In the mid-1990s I got a serious “white collar” job as a project
manager, got married and had two children, and so the psychedelic adventures
were put on hold for a while, although I continued with the record collecting
and writing. Now in recent years I’ve been able to get back into Psychedelia
again, but these days it’s more about psilocybian mushrooms and ayahuasca (yagé)
than Hofmann’s old potion. I hear some people say it’s hard to find lysergics
right now, probably because there isn’t any active undeground lab going, but
this comes and goes. However, people could simply switch to shrooms or
ayahuasca, which are just as powerful or even more powerful,and actually more or
less legal in many European countries.
Where can we purchase the
book?
Distribution
is handled by Subliminal Sounds, who have a good global network due to their
success with artists like Dungen. We’re also trying to break into the
traditional book market with “Psychedelia”, not just the underground and
music-related stores, but ordinary bookshops. Those familiar with the Acid
Archives will be able to buy “Psychedelia” from the same places, and it should
also be findable via ebay.com and amazon.com. Those who can’t find a copy after
Googling can drop a line to Subliminal Sounds, but basically the book is printed
in a fairly large run and should be easy to find.
As far as it goes with new bands, what
do you recommend to check out?
My knowledge
of modern rock music is very sporadic and random – I often wait 5-10 years
before checking a band or genre out, because I want all the hype to disappear
before listening to them. So recently I’ve been checking out things like Tool,
Kyuss, Queens Of The Stoneage etc that were really hot 10 years ago. As for what
is going on right now, I know the electronica scene well, but in rock music I
can’t tell you what 2012 bands are good until it’s 2022! As for psychedelic
electronica I recommend checking out Shpongle, Tripswitch, Slack Baba, Solar
Fields, Entheogenic, the Ultimae label, and several more like
that.
What besides music occupies your life,
Patrick?
The last two
years have been all about the “Psychedelia” book, which has eaten up all my time
except for when hanging out with my two young sons. Now that the book is
finished I can get back to things that have been neglected a long time, like
watching movies – I am a major fan of American 1970s movies and try to see
everything that exists, even the most obscure ones. My sons and I are fans of
international football, so we watch a lot of that, and also play FIFA 12 on the
Wii console—we also play a lot of Mario Kart! One thing that I will pick up
shortly is my record dealing business,which has been put on hold for more than a
year. I have a web-shop/auction-site called “Renaissance Fair” where I offer
rare psychedelic records and literature. It’s a lot of fun, but also requires a
lot of work,even for a small-scale dealer like me. Finally, a major interest
that I was happy to work into the Psychedelia book is classic modernist poetry
like T S Eliot and Ezra Pound—I discovered this dazzling literature when I was
15-16 and it’s been a steady companion ever since.
Any future plans after the book gets
released?
We’re going to
put a lot of work and weight behind the “Psychedelia” book. I try to do
something new with each book I publish,and the goal here is to reach outside the
usual psych fan/collector circle, and get people from other backgrounds
interested. So I expect to continue with this for several months. After that,
I’m eager to get the “Renaissance Fair” website going again, and I also have a
few magazine articles and reissue liner notes ready to work on. The major
question is what my next book will be, and at this point I have no idea. I’d
like to do something that is very visual and graphic-oriented, and maybe recycle
lots of rare stuff from my psychedelic archives, but I haven’t found the precise
idea yet.
You should share something psychedelic
with the readers of It's Psychedelic Baby Magazine for the end of our
interview...
A funny
psychedelic story which never made it into the “Psychedelia” book concerns the
time when Timothy Leary and his colleague Richard Alpert were flying down to
Mexico where they were going to set up a psychedelic “summer camp” at a resort
hotel in 1963. Alpert had a pilot license and the two fearless acidheads rented
a small plane and flew it all the way from Boston down across the Mexican
border, although Alpert had only just gotten his license. So it was a bumpy
flight, and at one point a glass bottle of liquid Sandoz LSD that they had in
their baggage broke, and the lysergic fluid ran out all over a white suit that
Alpert had hit the bottle inside. It was lot of acid, and they had no other
source, so for several months, Leary, Alpert and the other Harvard guys would
get high by cutting small pieces of cloth from this white suit, which they
chewed and swallowed. Too bad there are no photos or footage of
that…
Interview made by Klemen Breznikar /
2012
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http://psychedelicbaby.blogspot.com / 2012
